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May 26, 2010 /

Marion Zimmer Bradley vs. Fanfiction

Most writers, both commercial and fanfic, have heard some version of the Marion Zimmer Bradley “cautionary tale” regarding fanfiction. In one version, Bradley was a generous, nurturing author who encouraged fanfiction until a greedy fanfic author tried to sue her, torpedoing a book in the process. In another, Bradley had was preying on helpless fanfic authors, using their ideas to perpetuate her publishing empire.

If we’re going to toss this story around every time we talk about fanfiction, it would be nice to have a few facts to go with the fourth-hand accounts, guesswork, and rumors. Michael Thomas and opusculus have both posted about the MZB incident lately, and provided inspiration and starting points for my own write-up. But I wanted to dig deeper, and to avoid the wiki-style sources which in my opinion aren’t as reliable for this sort of thing.

To put my own biases out there, one of my first sales was to Marion Zimmer Bradley’s Fantasy Magazine. I later sold a story to Sword & Sorceress XXI. In addition, I’m published by DAW, which also published Bradley’s work. I’ll leave it to you to read and decide whether this influences my research and write-up.

First hand statements are in red. I’ve included links wherever possible.

The Background:

Bradley allowed and even encouraged fanfiction in the beginning.  From Bradley’s 1980 introduction to The Keeper’s Price, the first Darkover anthology (page 14): “[I]n a very real sense, I regard myself not as the “inventor” of Darkover, but its discoverer. If others wish to play in my fantasy world, who am I to slam its gates and in churlish voice demand that they build their own? … Why should I deny myself the pleasure of seeing these young writers learning to do their thing by, for a little while, doing my thing with me?”

Bradley even edited the fanzine Starstone with her husband Walter Breen. (Though to me, this blurs the definitions a little.  Is it really fanfic if the creator is the one editing the magazine?  What about something like the Star Wars anthologies Kevin J. Anderson edited?  Some would say no, because these are licensed works, explicitly permitted by the copyright holder. Others would say it’s still fanfiction. Me, I’m gonna save that argument for another day.)

Years later, a fan named Jean Lamb published a short novel called “Masks” in the fanzine Moon Phases. (Possibly issue #8 in 1986.) Lamb confirms this in a newsgroup posting from 3/19/2001. And here’s where things start to get messy.

The Conflict:

In a letter Bradley allegedly wrote to Writers Digest in March of 1993, she explains, “one of the fans [Lamb] wrote a story, using my world and my characters, that overlapped the setting I was using for my next Darkover novel. Since she had sent me a copy of her fanzine, and I had read it, my publisher will not publish my novel set during that time period, and I am now out several years’ work, as well as the cost of inconvenience of having a lawyer deal with this matter.”

I’ve heard claims that DAW killed the project. I’ve also spoken to Betsy Wollheim at DAW, who states that this was Bradley’s decision, not DAW’s.

Lamb’s version of events is different: “I received a letter offering me a sum and a dedication for all rights to the text. I attempted at that point to _very politely_ negotiate a better deal. I was told that I had better take what I was offered, that much better authors than I had not been paid as much (we’re talking a few hundred dollars here) and had gotten the same sort of ‘credit’ (this was in the summer of 1992).”

Finally, here is Mercedes Lackey’s version.  Lackey worked closely with Bradley, and for that reason I count her as a valid primary source. “Marion had begun to write a Darkover book about Regis Hastur. She liked the ‘take’ a particular fan author had on the situations and asked to use that spin on things for her book in return for the usual acknowlegement in the front of the book. She had done this before with other fan authors.”

Bradley had indeed borrowed from fans and other writers before. From Elizabeth Waters: “Back in 1977 I wrote a Darkover story about Hilary Castamir. One of my friends knew MZB and passed it on to her, and she rewrote it into ‘The Keeper’s Price.’ Eventually it became the title story of the first Darkover anthology.” The story is listed in the Table of Contents as a collaboration between Bradley and Waters.

The Facts:

As far as I can tell, the following is not disputed.

  1. Bradley originally encouraged fanfiction.
  2. Bradley read Jean Lamb’s story “Masks” in Moon Phases.
  3. Bradley contacted Lamb, offering payment and a dedication in exchange for rights to use the ideas from “Masks” in the Darkover novel “Contraband.”
  4. Bradley and Lamb were unable to reach an agreement, and “Contraband” was cancelled.
  5. Bradley changed her policy on fanfiction, stating that she would no longer allow it.

The Unknown:

I’ve read various accounts and speculations, but have been unable to find definitive answers to the following questions.

  1. Who was the first to hire a lawyer, Lamb or Bradley?
  2. How much time and work was actually lost on Bradley’s part?
  3. How much was Bradley planning to use from Lamb’s work?
  4. What exactly forced the cancellation of “Contraband”?

That last question bothers me. Several statements suggest the book was already being written. If Bradley and Lamb couldn’t come to an agreement, that’s one thing, but I don’t see how that could ruin the entire book. If you don’t have rights to use someone else’s story, then you continue to write your own.

One possibility comes from the editor of Moon Phases, Nina Boal, who wrote, “Marion did offer Jean a special dedication and also $500. Jean refused this, saying that she wanted a byline for the novel. Jean also became convinced (erroneously) that Marion intended to plagerize [sic] from her fan-written work about Danvan Hastur.”

Whether this was actually the case or just a fear on Bradley’s part, I can understand where the potential for legal complications and accusations of plagiarism could be enough to scuttle the project. However, this is speculative on my part.

My Conclusion:

The MZB incident has been used for years as a caution to authors against allowing fanfiction. Looking at what facts I could find, I don’t believe this is valid.

I’m not saying authors should or should not permit fanfiction, but in this case, I believe the real problem arose not from the fact that Bradley allowed Darkover fanfiction, but from two other, very specific issues:

  1. Bradley was an active participant in Darkover fanfiction, editing a fanzine and reading unlicensed, fan-written works.
  2. Bradley tried to buy the rights to use a fan’s story.

You can argue whether Bradley’s offer was unfair or Lamb’s response was unreasonable. Without knowing the specifics, I couldn’t say one way or another. (Knowing human nature, my guess is there’s probably blame enough for both sides, if you’re worried about that.)

The lesson I take from all this is to avoid potentially putting myself in Bradley’s position, and that means not reading fanfiction of my work. Sure, most fanfic authors I’ve met and spoken to have been wonderful people … but it only takes one.  So if someone likes my work enough to write fanfiction, I find that flattering. But I don’t want to know about it.

May 25, 2010 /

8 Books in 8 Weeks: Week Three

Red Hood’s Revenge [B&N | Mysterious Galaxy | Amazon] comes out in six weeks.  SciFiChick has posted an early review, and says:

“More dramatic than previous installments, this latest story revolves mainly around Talia and Roudette, bringing to light more of their dark and horrible pasts … There’s plenty of the suspense and action that make this fantasy series great. Hines’ princess heroines from fairy tale lore are truly unique and completely enjoyable from start to finish.”

Congratulations to mskiara, who won the second giveaway!  For the rest of you, don’t worry — I’ve got six more chances for people to win.

For the past two weeks, I’ve had a blast reading your creative and entertaining entries, so let’s keep going with the fun.  To enter this week’s contest, imagine a princess video game.  Danielle, Snow, and Talia vs. all manner of nastiness.

Who would be the ultimate boss at the end of the game, and how do the princesses defeat said boss?[1. You can’t say Batman, ’cause we’ve already covered that one at http://www.sff.net/people/jchines/Pics/Talia-Batman.jpg]

Leave your answer in the comments, and I’ll select one person to win an autographed copy of one of the following books (your choice):

As in previous weeks, the winner will be chosen at random, so there’s no pressure.  Just have fun.

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May 24, 2010 /

Libraries vs. File Sharing Sites

Yesterday: 8 miles on the exercise bike, 3-hour Sanchin-Ryu workshop, and then came home to mow the lawn.

Today: Ouch.

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One of the arguments that comes up from time to time in discussions of file-sharing is that it’s the same thing libraries are doing.

Today was my day to post at SF Novelists, so I’ve started picking apart the rather poor argument that file-sharing sites are just like libraries: http://www.sfnovelists.com/2010/05/24/libraries-vs-file-sharing-sites/

Go forth and read, and please feel free to chime in with your own thoughts.

May 21, 2010 /

Saying No to a Publisher

At the start of the month, I posted about a possible secret writing project.  Wizards of the Coast asked me and a few other authors to write sample pages for a book they’re planning.  I was excited about the idea, and as a long-time gaming geek, I thought it would be a lot of fun to be a WotC author.

On May 11, I got an e-mail from the editor at Wizards.  She loved the sample and invited me to write the book.  On May 18, my agent received the official offer.

Yesterday, I turned them down.

Back in 2002, I sent sample pages to Wizards, hoping to write for them.  I’ve been playing D&D for most of my life (one of the reasons I said I’d be perfect for this project).  I have a number of friends who write for WotC and seem happy.  I was excited about being able to join them.

So why did I say no?  Ultimately, it’s because we couldn’t agree on what my time, energy, and writing were worth.  I was hoping to be able to negotiate a deal that would work for both sides.  Without going into detail, this didn’t happen.

It’s a strange feeling, saying no to a major publisher.  A strange feeling, and a scary one.  Did I make a mistake?  Have I burned a bridge?  Oh-God-what-the-hell-did-I-just-do???

At the same time, it’s empowering.  I don’t believe my ego has gotten out of control (yet), but I have developed more confidence in both my writing and my worth.  I don’t have to say yes to a deal I’m not comfortable with.

It’s important to be able to say no.  If you can’t, people can and will take advantage.  Sometimes your willingness to say no can result in a better deal.  Sometimes it helps you avoid a bad one.  Sometimes it helps you prioritize, because time is finite and there’s a limit to the number of stories anyone can write in their lifetime.  (With the possible exception of Jay Lake.)

A tie-in for Wizards would have been a lot of fun, and would have added something new to my body of work.  (Not to mention that I would have written one seriously Kick Ass book!)  On the other hand, this lessens my stress for the next few months, and frees up time to finish putting together the pitch for my next series.

I have no hard feelings or ill will toward Wizards.  I’m disappointed things didn’t work out, but it’s not the end of the world, or even the end of my career.

Questions and comments are welcome, as always, but be aware that I signed a nondisclosure agreement about the project, so I can’t get any more specific about the actual book.

May 19, 2010 /

Quick Story Sale

I love you people.  We’re already at 70 or so warnings about Red Hood’s Revenge.  A few of my favorites:

From Christine: Surgeon General’s Warning: Red Hood’s Revenge may cause heroine addiction.

From bodlon: Warning: Red Hood’s Revenge contains princesses under pressure. Do not shake. Talia may explode and cause serious injury.

From several commenters: Do not taunt Red Hood’s Revenge.

If you’re looking for a laugh this morning, read through some of the entries.  (And if you want to win a free book, there’s still plenty of time to contribute your own!)

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Yesterday I stumbled across the German cover art for The Mermaid’s Madness.  Or if Google Translator is to be trusted, The Nasty Mermaid.  (I’m told the actual translation is closer to “The Mean Mermaid.”)  Click the thumbnail for the full version.  I like this one — good color, lots of action, and we get to see the mermaid!

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Publishing can be a slow business, especially when you’re a writer waiting to hear back from an agent or editor.  My personal record is two and a half years from submitting a manuscript to receiving an offer.  But it’s not always this way.  In fact, there are weeks that make you wish things would slow down a little…

  • May 10-11: Started drafting short story.
  • May 12-13: Decided short story sucked, and started over.  Finished 4000-word draft.
  • May 14-15: Rewrote and submitted story to editor.
  • May 18: Received e-mail accepting my zombie cop story “In the Line of Duty” for the DAW anthology Zombiesque.

Less than a week to write and submit the story, and three days to hear back on the sale.  Not bad, eh?  It’s a twisted little story.  Working titles were Z-men and ZSI, but both of those were a bit too silly.

There’s also been some further activity re: the secret project, but nothing I can talk about yet.  Soon, I suspect … one way or another.

May 18, 2010 /

8 Books in 8 Weeks: Week Two

Red Hood’s Revenge [B&N | Mysterious Galaxy | Amazon] comes out in eight seven more weeks.  (I’ve even seen my first early review, over at Green Man Review!)  I’m giving away a book each week to hopefully build a little buzz and excitement.

Congratulations to Jessica Tudor, who won the first giveaway.  And my thanks to everyone who entered.  I asked you to post something that made you smile, and it made for a great contest.  I really enjoyed reading everyone’s comments.

For this week, let’s keep with the fun.  Give me a hypothetical product warning about Red Hood.  Something like:

Warning: Red Hood’s Revenge is meant for external use only.

Keep it PG-13 or better.  I’ll be drawing a winner at random next Monday, so no pressure to be the funniest.  Winner receives an autographed copy of one of my books.

Have fun.

May 17, 2010 /

Piracy Thought

Thank you to everyone who commented and e-mailed about my ASD post on Friday.  I tried to keep up and respond to everything, but there was just no way.  I read and appreciated them all.

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So on Saturday, Google Alerts brought up an individual who had reposted my entire First Novel Survey on his blog.  Then on Sunday, someone posted a heads up link to an e-book “lending” site.

I’m not a rabid pirate-hunter, nor am I terribly fond of or impressed by DRM.  That said, I spent a month working on that survey, doing the research, writing it all up, putting the graphs and graphics together.

I’ve also sold reprint rights for that article.  I.e., as a professional writer, this is one of my sources of income.  Not a major one, but that reprint sale will pay for a week’s worth of groceries for my family.

If you want to link back to it, great.  Quote a snippet, no problem.  But to copy and post the whole thing without permission?  Illegality aside, that’s a dick move.  An unintentional one, perhaps.  Sometimes this sort of thing happens from ignorance or cluelessness.  But still highly annoying to the writer who did the actual work.

I’m willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the blogger.  Not so with the e-book “library.”  Our so-called librarian even begs for donations on the site, because you see, he has bills to pay.  He goes on to explain that since he (allegedly) bought these e-books, “[the] authors and thieving publishers have received their due.”

This makes me cranky, in part because I’ve been busting my ass even more than usual this month.  I’ve written, revised, and submitted a 4000-word short story, a 2000-word sample chapter for a possible novel deal, and continued to work on Snow Queen.

My “thieving” publisher will read my work, write up editing notes, pay for the book to be copy-edited, typeset, and sent to me for final proofing.  This is before their sales force heads out to do their thing, before the hire a professional cover artist, and before the publicist starts working to build word of mouth.

You can argue that obscurity is a greater threat than piracy, and you might be right.  You can argue that piracy doesn’t actually cost writers sales, that people who download these files probably wouldn’t have paid for the book anyway.  That this could be good for writers, because it can be a way to get new readers.

All of that might be true.  But when that “help” comes from someone who calls authors/publishers thieves for the crime of wanting to be paid for our work?  Someone who at the same time begs for donations to pay his own bills?  I’m perfectly happy to build my career without that kind of help, thank you.

May 14, 2010 /

Autism Spectrum Disorder

So a little while back, I was pondering how much to publicly share about family, particularly my children.  There was a reason for this.

Today we received confirmation from my son’s school that he meets their criteria for ASD — Autism Spectrum Disorder.

It’s not completely unexpected.  My wife is a practicing counselor.  I’ve got a degree in psych.  Both of us had noticed certain behavioral issues.

Jackson[1. That’s the name he chose for himself for Daddy’s blog] is a brilliant little kid, and he’s very high functioning.  He is who he is.  A note from the school doesn’t change that.  What it does is gives us a way to make sure he gets the help he needs in school.

Next steps are to meet with the school this afternoon, and to talk to someone about a medical diagnosis.  (If he meets the school’s criteria, the odds are very good that he’ll meet the medical criteria as well, since the schools … well, since it costs them money to provide special ed. services, they’re motivated to minimize the false positives.)

I’m still processing this, and probably will be for a very long time.

I’m not asking for advice, and I’m not currently in a space where I’m interested in hearing it.  If you decide to comment and tell me what I should do, there’s a very good chance your comment will be deleted.

He’s a good kid.  I know he’s going to be okay.  I know the rest of us will, too.  But it’s hard right now.

I don’t know where I’m going with this, so I’m going to just share a picture.

(This was from two years back.  Jackson was sick.  It’s one of my favorite pictures.)

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May 13, 2010 /

Responding to Various Outrages

Outrage the First: Supermodel Tyra Banks has signed a multi-book deal to write a YA series, the first of which will be called Modelland.

The outrage: It’s not fair that these celebrities wander along and decide to “write” a book, usually with huge advances, when real writers work for years to try to break in, and those that do are lucky to get a $5000 advance.

My response: She’s a celebrity.  People will buy her book, whether it’s good or not.  Of course she’s going to get an obscene advance.  If you believe it’s easier to first become a celebrity and then score a book deal, I suggest you try that career path.  But don’t blame publishers for acquiring things that will sell.  If you must be outraged, blame the readers who keep buying celebrity books.

Outrage the Second: Author Neil Gaiman was paid $45,000 for a four-hour speaking engagement at a Stillwater library.

The outrage: What a waste of money!  No author is worth $11,250 an hour, especially a science-fiction/fantasy author!  Think of all the things that money could have been used for!

My response: Have you heard Gaiman speak?  Also, the money was earmarked for speaking fees, and so couldn’t have been used for anything else anyway.  Also, I need to up my speaking rates.  (Gaiman’s response is here, and like most of what he writes, is very worth reading.)

Outrage the Third: Diana Gabaldon and George R.R. Martin hate fanfiction!

The outrage: They’re attacking/shutting out/insulting their fans.  They don’t understand fanfiction.  They’re wrong on the Internet!

My response: Some authors say they don’t “get” fanfic.  Me, I don’t get our need to rehash this squabble every six months.  Look, the MZB incident has multiple, sometimes contradictory details, Lori Jareo was an idiot, and I’ve got books to write. Moving on…

Outrage the Fourth: Facebook has changed their policies again, eroding yet another chunk from your online privacy.

The outrage: Everyone’s information is shared/marketed by default, and they’re forcing you to actively opt out.  They’ve gone from caring about users to caring about advertisers and business partners.

My response: Fool us once, shame on you.  Fool us at least six times over the past five years, and–  Right!  Shame on you anyway.  Why are we still shocked and outraged when big companies turn out to be primarily interested in making money?

Outrage the Fifth: Michigan author Jim C. Hines has the most dandelion-filled lawn on his block!

My response: Bite me.

May 11, 2010 /

8 Books in 8 Weeks

Red Hood’s Revenge [B&N | Mysterious Galaxy | Amazon] comes out in exactly eight weeks.  As the excitement builds and we all eagerly count down the days — you are eagerly counting down the days, aren’t you? — I wanted to try something a little different.

So every week from now until Red Hood comes out, I’ll be giving away an autographed copy of one of my books.  The rules will change from week to week, depending on what I’m in the mood for.  One week I might give a book to a random Twitter follower.  The next I might ask you to complete the following poem:

Roses are red,
Goblins are blue,
Authors are ________
__________________.

One way or another, I’m hoping it will be fun, and I get to give away free books.  For this first week, I figured we’d start off simple: all you have to do to enter is comment about something that makes you smile.  (Anonymous commenters, please make sure I have a way to reach you.)

I’ll pick a winner next week to receive his/her choice of one of my published fantasy novels.  Anyone can enter, though if I get a few overseas winners early on, I may have to start limiting it to U.S. entries due to shipping costs.

    

Have fun!  (And if you felt inclined to spread the word, I certainly wouldn’t object.)

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