No More Dried Up Spinsters – Nancy Jane Moore
There have been a number of different reactions to these essays. Most that I’ve seen have been very positive. But I’ve also spoken with people, generally authors, who felt defensive. At a recent convention, one author told me he felt like it was a language problem, that talking about things like sexism or racism or exclusion meant different things to different people, and to him these had always been conscious forms of abuse and discrimination. Which led to him feeling like he was being scolded for choosing to exclude people.
To his credit, he stepped back and realized that’s not what was being said. So much of what we’re talking about are unconscious attitudes, cultural assumptions we’ve absorbed. I grew up in a middle class, mostly white suburb. As a kid, I saw nothing strange about stories dominated by white people. For years, it never occurred to me that anyone was missing.
For the writers reading this series, the point isn’t to tell you, personally, that you’re Doing It Wrong. The point, at least for me, is to talk about why stories and representation matter. How it affects people. Not to say, “Hey, this is how you must write all your stories, or else you’re a Bad Person,” but to say, “Hey, here’s stuff you might not have thought about before. Think about it…”
With that said, please welcome Nancy Jane Moore.
One afternoon, when I wanted to avoid work, I pulled out one of my late mother’s Agatha Christie’s – a book featuring Miss Marple. When I’m procrastinating, I read things that aren’t important to me, but to my surprise, I found myself getting into the book. It wasn’t the plot that drew me in – Christie’s plots were always ridiculous – but the character of Miss Marple.
When I read Christie as a kid, I didn’t much like the Marple books, yet all these years later, I found myself captivated by this smart “elderly spinster.” Odd. Then I realized what had happened: I got old. Maybe not as old as Miss Marple, who is probably somewhere between 60 and 80, depending on the book, but definitely not young, not cute, not the object of men’s desire. All of a sudden, the idea that the main actor in a story could be the older woman appealed to me.
I loved adventure stories from an early age. Mysteries, spy novels, swashbucklers, anything in which the hero found himself in danger on a regular basis and solved his problems with his fists (or his gun). If they included a whiff of moral dilemma, even better. And since none of the heroes in the available books were ever women, I identified with the male heroes, with Philip Marlow or George Smiley or even – goddess help me – with James Bond.
I wanted to be the hero, not the hero’s girlfriend. I didn’t pretend I was a man – I didn’t want to be a man – but I did pretend that I got to have the adventures. It wasn’t until a co-worker introduced me to C.J. Cherryh’s Morgaine series that I discovered adventure stories about women. That drew me into science fiction, a place I’ve never left, especially when I figured out that if you wrote a story set in the future – or in a fantasy world that never was – you could give a woman agency and adventures without having to explain why she was “exceptional.”
I’ve always been a woman, so craving female heroes in my fiction came naturally to me. But I haven’t always been old. I suspect that when I was younger, I didn’t notice the treatment of old people in fiction. It didn’t occur to me that the dried up elderly spinster wasn’t drawn from real life. But for every “smart as a whip” Miss Marple, fiction has given us thousands of silly old maids, overbearing maiden aunts, and – to give equal time to the married – cheerful grandmothers.
We’ve seen so many of these characters that it takes very little description to convey them. I was reading a story the other day in which an elderly spinster was a very minor character, and I saw her instantly, a stick of a woman, scared of any man, scared of her shadow. I knew what I was supposed to see. These characters have peopled our fiction for so long that we’ve come to believe that they’re real.
And yet, I know a lot of older single women – have known them my entire life, have been one – and not one matches that description. I’ve never met anyone like the typical spinsters of fiction, but I still know what they look like and I know I’m supposed to mock them.
The “click” for me in realizing just how much we stereotype older women was a direct result of my own aging and the aging of my friends, coupled with spending time with people a good deal older than I was while taking care of my father for the last five years of his life. Here’s the most important thing I’ve noticed about all the older people I know: They’re individuals.
I know women who live for their grandchildren. I know those who enjoy their lives, but feel satisfied with what they’ve accomplished. I know ones still pursuing their careers even though they’re well past retirement age, because they love their work. For crying out loud, Hillary Clinton is a grandmother, older than I am, and working very hard to be President of the United States. But I bet no one who ever pitched a novel about the first woman president described her as over 50, much less late 60s.
As for me, I’m in the throes of changing my life. I just moved halfway across the country to live with my sweetheart, embarking on a serious relationship after spending my younger life as a happy spinster. My first novel comes out in August. I still do Aikido, even if I don’t fall down or fly through the air anymore. And I’ve got plans for so many stories I want to write, trips I want to take, experiences I want to have. I am in no way ready to settle into a sedate old age.
I’d like to see more women like me in fiction, and especially in SF/F, where we can bend all the possibilities. Catherine Lundoff has put together a great list of older women characters in SF/F, which she’s updating regularly. But to get a good list, she has defined “older” as women 40 and above. By that standard, the main characters in my forthcoming novel would qualify, though when I wrote them I made them in their 40s and 50s so they would be old enough to have responsible positions as scientists on an interstellar ship. That is to say, middle-aged, not old.
I suspect if you put the cut-off at 50, the list would shrink. And if you set it at 60 or 70, you’d be down to a few crones and witches and, of course, Ursula K. Le Guin’s Odo, who sparked the revolution that gave us the world of The Dispossessed. But Odo’s an outlier. And outside of Odo, I suspect many of the characters are wise crones. Granted that it’s better than the ditsy spinster, it’s still a stereotype.
I want old women who are starship captains and rocket scientists, rulers and generals, adventurers and sages. Let them be grandmothers and happy spinsters on the side from doing what they do in the world, just like the other characters in a story.
And, oh, yes, let them have sex. Old people do, you know. It’s not just something they did in the past. Some old folks are definitely getting it on.
No, I’m not going to tell you how I know that.
Nancy Jane Moore’s science fiction novel, The Weave, will be published by Aqueduct Press in August. Her short fiction has appeared in many anthologies, in magazines ranging from Lady Churchill’s Rosebud Wristlet to the National Law Journal, and in books from PS Publishing and Aqueduct. Moore is a founding member of the authors’ co-op Book View Café. She holds a fourth degree black belt in Aikido and lives in Oakland, California.
Betsy Dornusch
March 10, 2015 @ 8:33 am
Lately I’m really enjoying Katarina in 12 Monkeys. As a middle aged (gulp) writer and reader these characters more like me intrigue me. She has so much more history and depth than the younger characters. Congrats on the book 🙂
D. D. Webb
March 10, 2015 @ 8:43 am
A very interesting post, and an important read. It’s certainly something for me, at least, to consider, something I likely wouldn’t have un-prompted.
I think, on reflection, the archetypal spinster character is a holdover from another time. You’re correct, now that you mention it, in that people matching this description are seldom seen in real life. Nor do we, as a culture, as consciously dismiss older, unmarried women as somehow defective (note I said “consciously”. There was a time when that was the overt belief, however, and I bet that’s the era that gave us this archetype.
I wonder how many silly anachronisms like that are lurking in our cultural unconscious, waiting for someone to challenge them. It’s kind of scary how invisible they can be until some light is shed.
Stephen Dunscombe
March 10, 2015 @ 8:57 am
… I’m eyeing my current manuscript, and rubbing my hands together in glee.
mary fitzpatrick
March 10, 2015 @ 9:02 am
Amen
I’d love some stories with middle-aged (50’s) women characters. Especially stories that don’t involve then somehow resolving all their life problema by hanging out with younger people because they are the “hip” cool old person.
Carpe Librarium
March 10, 2015 @ 9:03 am
Excellent essay. Thank you, Nancy!
You might enjoy this article praising another well known older lady.
http://the-toast.net/2014/07/01/becoming-jessica-fletcher-celebrating-murder-wrote/
Birgit
March 10, 2015 @ 10:36 am
Very interesting read and food for thought, thank you!
One to add to your list of women over 60/70 in literature: Kim Stanley Robinson’s Mars trilogy. Three of the main characters are women and he follows them from a youngish age to very old age. They are rocket scientists (quite literally), political leaders and revolutionaries, have sex and definitely have a lot of character, if you’ve not read the books you might really enjoy them!
Catalicious
March 10, 2015 @ 10:46 am
I wish we could do away with the word spinster.
Lark @ The Bookwyrm's Hoard
March 10, 2015 @ 11:40 am
“I want old women who are starship captains and rocket scientists, rulers and generals, adventurers and sages. Let them be grandmothers and happy spinsters on the side from doing what they do in the world, just like the other characters in a story.”
Yes. This. And not just as secondary characters, but as protagonists as well. Too often, the older female characters get the supporting role (or the hindering one.) Let them be the heroine, the POV character.
I want women protagonists in their 50s, 60s, 70s. I want women who are single and women who are happily married, but not defined merely as wives. I want older women who are at the peak of their career or finding their way into a new one. Let them be dragged into adventure kicking and screaming or eagerly seeking it out; it’s not only the young whose lives can change rapidly and who must figure out who they are or reinvent their lives. (That’s especially true for women whose children have recently left the nest – a subset of older women who rarely get attention from SFF writers.)
Brava, Ms. Moore, for giving voice to what I’ve felt keenly for some years now: the dearth of middle-aged and older women protagonists, especially in SFF.
Joie
March 10, 2015 @ 12:07 pm
Here I leave the same thing I left on facebook:
Dorothy Gilman. Her Mrs. Pollifax books are *phenomenal,* though not SF/F (her Clairvoyant Countess duology *could* count, depending on how you view the title character’s abilities). A Nun in the Closet is a family favorite as well. All of these feature older women, some of whom have romantic lives, some who choose not to. I grew up on them and I will ALWAYS be grateful to have those active, adventurous, competent, complex women in my formative years.
She’s mostly a mystery writer with one or two fantasy books, but her characters most certainly are excellent models of what older, even elderly, women can and should be in our literature.
Susan Jett
March 10, 2015 @ 12:41 pm
I’m re-reading Lois McMaster Bujold right now, & I’ll confess Paladin of Souls (with its 40yo grandmother protag!) has a lot more resonance for me now than it did 12 years ago when I was still identifying more with teenaged heroines than ‘grown-up’ ones! And I hadn’t really put my finger on it until now. Kind of amazing what we’ve been trained to take for granted. Kind of amazing how few books there are for what is–for many people–the longest period in their lives. Is it that we middle-agers don’t have as much time to go on reading binges (heaven knows that I can’t remember the last time I was able to devote an ENTIRE WEEKEND to reading, like I did regularly as a teen/college student)? Well, whyever it happens, Middle-aged-writers-of-the-future-writing-about-people-like-ourselves-unite!
jencat
March 10, 2015 @ 12:47 pm
Oh yes please – and ‘singleton’ is just a more newfangled way of being dismissive about it (single is a legal description, ok; singleton is stupid nonsensical slang). If you want to describe someone as unmarried or unattached, say that.
Lark @ The Bookwyrm's Hoard
March 10, 2015 @ 1:10 pm
I heartily second that recommendation. I *love* Mrs. Pollifax (and the Clairvoyant Countess). I will say that middle-aged protagonists are more common in the mystery genre than in SF/F. In addition to Mrs. Pollifax, you might look at the following: A Clutch of Constables by Ngaio Marsh, in which DCI Alleyn’s wife, the artist Troy, is the main protagonist, and The Grass-Widow’s Tale by Ellis Peters, which stars Bunty, the empty-nest wife of Peters’ detective George Felse. And although I haven’t read the books, there is Patricia Wentworth’s Miss Silver series, plus quite a few American and British cozy series featuring women who are 40 and older.
Cat Kimbriel
March 10, 2015 @ 1:55 pm
How ironic is it that today some of us would like to get rid of the word “spinster” forgetting that the word originally meant someone who could make a living spinning fine thread. It was the first respectable job, in many ways, for a single woman–a job that could support her if she had no dowry to marry. For marriage was largely about economics and family alliances.
A. Pendragyn
March 10, 2015 @ 2:13 pm
Thanks for writing this.
I’ve found that as I’ve grown older, the books I used to love have lost some (and sometimes all) of their appeal. Often the characters are all young and gorgeous etc. and I just can not get into that wishful headspace any more. Or maybe it’s more that I won’t. It’s changed my writing too, for the better I think.
jencat
March 10, 2015 @ 2:28 pm
I thought it was interesting that the OED definition actually includes a comment on this:
“The development of the word spinster is a good example of the way in which a word acquires strong connotations to the extent that it can no longer be used in a neutral sense. From the 17th century the word was appended to names as the official legal description of an unmarried woman: Elizabeth Harris of London, Spinster. This type of use survives today in some legal and religious contexts. In modern everyday English, however, spinster cannot be used to mean simply ‘unmarried woman’; it is now always a derogatory term, referring or alluding to a stereotype of an older woman who is unmarried, childless, prissy, and repressed.”
So the irony is more just that the common usage of the word has shifted so far, surely, rather than that people want to stop using it now that it’s a negative term?
Amy Sterling Casil
March 10, 2015 @ 3:18 pm
Great minds think alike … http://superversivesf.com/2015/02/11/change-the-pattern-by-amy-sterling-casil/
Stephanie Whelan
March 10, 2015 @ 3:20 pm
Just on the Children’s Lit side of things–did you ever read the Ms. Pickerell series? It’s an older series and dated, but you’ve got exactly that kind of heroine having adventures!
Lark @ The Bookwyrm's Hoard
March 10, 2015 @ 4:17 pm
I had totally forgotten the Miss Pickerell books! I really enjoyed them as a child, and read all I could find. Thanks for the reminder!
Sally
March 10, 2015 @ 6:53 pm
Amen, sister.
As a Woman OF A Certain Age myself, I love this.
I learned a lot from hanging out with my mother’s friends (who volunteered and worked, often both), and in a volunteer gig where I’d spend about 6 hours a day in a car with a woman over 60. Married, widowed, still single, one long-time lesbian couple. They’d had careers, still traveled, had grandchildren and Gentlemen Friends, took/taught classes, AND… They Fought Crime!
(Well, wrote parking tickets, which is kind of fighting crime combined with community relations.)
Hope to see you at local cons.
janet
March 10, 2015 @ 6:59 pm
Thank you for the link to the list of older women characters in SF/F. A book I’d add is Shannon Page’s “Our Lady of the Islands”: http://whatever.scalzi.com/2014/12/11/the-big-idea-shannon-page-2/
Her protagonist is old enough to have a few grandchildren, and some arthritis, but she a vibrant person, and responds with courage and smarts when she’d dumped into trouble.
Megpie71
March 10, 2015 @ 7:18 pm
I’d offer up Terry Pratchett’s “Witches” books – particularly Wyrd Sisters, Witches Abroad, Lords and Ladies, and Carpe Jugulum. I’m in my forties, and I’ve decided I definitely want to to be Granny Weatherwax when I grow up (even if I do look more like Nanny Ogg). The two senior witches are very definitely different individuals, and they’re essentially examples of intelligent women coping in a rural setting.
For more examples of the Witches of the Ramtops, the short story The Sea and Little Fishes introduces us to a few more of them.
Nancy Jane Moore
March 10, 2015 @ 7:54 pm
Thanks for all the kind comments and all the great book recommendations.
Carolyn Whetzel
March 10, 2015 @ 8:09 pm
Nancy, what a delight to see (and read) this essay posted by a FB friend. I forgot had moved to Oakland…I’m looking forward to your book!
Nancy Jane Moore
March 11, 2015 @ 1:23 am
Carolyn: Nice to see you in a different venue! Glad you liked the essay.
Nancy Jane Moore
March 11, 2015 @ 1:28 am
You’re right. I’m in the middle of that book right now.
Quinalla
March 12, 2015 @ 11:24 am
Thanks for the great post and all the great book recommendations from everyone! I recently read Jo Walton’s “My Real Children” who’s main character is followed through most of her life, so you get from young to old age. I’m not sure what genre it goes in and it seems no one else is sure either, it reminds me of some of Neil Gaiman & Peter S Beagle’s works in it’s genre defiant ways. I’d say it is sort-of-SF, sort-of-historical fiction and also has some great romance, but definitely worth reading!
And added your book to my to-read list!
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Kanika Kalra
March 16, 2015 @ 10:20 am
I’m back here after a week, and I see there are half a dozen new posts waiting to teach me something new, and to provide me with about four times as many interesting book recommendations. This post, I must say, serves as a refreshing (re)start.
I don’t understand WHY we don’t have more kickass grannies in this genre. Regardless of my age, I can’t wait to sink my teeth into these Mrs Pollifax books I just saw being recommended above. Thanks for this wonderful post, Ms Moore.
Spriggana
March 16, 2015 @ 7:53 pm
And one more tilte to look for had been announced today: Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen by Lois McMaster Bujold.
Quoting her words:
“(…) a new Cordelia Vorkosigan novel has been sold to Baen Books for publication, tentatively, in February of 2016.
It is not a war story. It is about grownups.”
The title suggests that it could be set on Sergyar while Cordelia had been a Vicereine there.
Sue
March 21, 2015 @ 1:00 am
Remnant Population by Elizabeth Moon. Science fiction that specifically deals with a story about what happens when a woman gets old. Quite a different kind of book, and very much worth reading.
Also, Elizabeth Moon wrote the Vatta’s War series of books. The main character is younger, but she has an Aunt Grace who is the matriarch of the family, and she plays a pivotal, intelligent, action role in the main story (primarily in the final book). This is a good series; I always say that it is not quite Lois McMaster Bujold, but it gets close.
I can’t wait to read the new Lois McMaster Bujuold book either. I do love how her characters are allowed to age, grow, and even die. Cordelia is only going to grow more interesting and complex with age. The real life insights that Lois puts into all of her characters, whether SF or fantasy, are special gifts to us readers.